ジェイソン・デイのエピソード！ | パットは許さない

ジェイソン・デイのエピソード！ | パットは許さない

So, for the most part, like I like based off what they’re saying, you know, through the the VS Black compared to the tour BX strokes gained green for the year before the playoffs, I was 71st at 0.224. Uh, driving distance was 299.5, 117th. That’s awful. Accuracy 59 59.6% 82nd. Awful. terrible. Um, I changed to the golf ball stroke game to green 2.563 which was 10th in the playoffs like in the it’s now granted it is a small testing pool because I only played two tournaments but during those two tournaments I was 10th in um strokes green u and then driving distance I was at 308.7 so I went to 30th instead of 117th so I gained 9.2 two yards. You can say 10 yards. So, and then at accuracy, I was at 68.16. So, I was 11th in accuracy as well. What is up everybody? How you living? No given. Tony and Chris, we’re back. But much to uh our happiness and exuberance, we have Jason Day with us. Jason, what’s going on? Hey guys, how are you? Is everything good? I think we’re good. How’s uh is this the off season for you? Um yeah. Yeah. No, it is the off season. I um yeah, I’ve just been kind of relaxing a little bit. Watched the Ryder Cup last last week. That was uh outstanding. Um was it? Oh yeah. I love I love the Ryder Cup. It was out. What’s your favorite part? Like when you watch I mean frankly the US team could have used you uh I think in a couple in a couple matches. We could have we could have benefited from uh uh some experience there but yeah as a world class like when you’re watching that because you’ve played in these events obviously on the President’s Cup side but what do you different the President’s Cup to the RDER Cup the whole field is different. I think um I love that the European side play for no money. Uh, it just adds more to the team. They just look and I’m I’m not saying that the Americans don’t look like a like a close-knit group. The Europeans look like they’re inseparable. They look like a family. Like I best relate it to, you know, New Zealand rugby, you know what I mean? Like when when you look at New Zealand rugby and what it means to, you know, an individual to be on that team, it just means so much so much more. Like it’s like it’s big. It’s huge for them and you can tell that they actually care. And that’s what I see in the European side is that um they honestly care individually for each and every person that’s on that team. And that’s not only just for the players, it’s also for the Caddies, the wives, everything. You can tell that they’re very, very close. And it just shows on on TV how much they actually care. Um, you know, with that being said, it just seemed like the Americans any time, like granted, I played in plenty of President’s Cups, so what the Americans were doing where they were hitting a lot of good quality golf shots, they weren’t quite putting as well as the Europeans, but when they had an opportunity to birdie and they took it and made birdie, the Europeans would just dunk it straight back on them. They gave them nothing. Absolutely nothing. any sort of momentum that they potentially could have had from holding a long bomb or a birdie pot. Like the Europeans answered it and not only did they shut the momentum down pretty quick that it kind of tamed the crowds down to a certain point. Now granted, I understand the RDER Cup is is big and there’s going to be some tempers flared out there um on the golf course between fans and and players depending on where you’re at, whether you’re playing home or away. Um, and I like it, man. Golf is so such a professional sport that to the point where we don’t want to cross the line and some of the heckling is uh can be a little bit much. Um, and and that being said, both from the fans and from players like there shouldn’t be like kind of the cussing at each other. And I understand that like it’s different and people that go there, especially that New York crowd can be can be tough at times. Um, but you know, that’s just kind of the whole whole thing. You’re playing away. Europe is it’s a Ryder Cup’s a huge thing. Um, and Europe’s playing in New York. I mean, that’s massive. So, I mean it was it was exciting to see how it all kind of happened yesterday because there was I mean it could have been like it was close but it wasn’t if they would have played a little bit better on the teams um the US might have you know obviously probably should have won it because of how well they played yesterday. Yeah, it’s interesting you bring up the the money part. It’s it’s I think like you can’t necessarily in my opinion point to like one specific reason that the European team has that kind of aura and kind of vibe about them um where it matters because I wouldn’t say it doesn’t matter to the Americans. I think they all want to win. I think it matters a lot, but there’s enough little things that go in there where it’s like I I don’t know that on the American side you can ever replicate or put together a committee or a task force to address and come up with, hey, how do we just culturally ingrain this more in our players that this is a really important thing and you should want to do it for your country, which they say they do. and and I believe that they do. I believe they want to represent the states, etc., and all those things, but no European player in my mind would ever ask to be paid. And like some American It’s just an interesting dividing point. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know if the if anyone’s ever asked to be paid more or less or whatever on the European side. I’m sure at some point they say, “Hey, we should be um paid for our time.” But I’ve heard multiple players on the US side talk about how they should get paid more or it’s okay to be paid. Now, when you when you start talking about that, it just sends the wrong message to the rest of the guys. You know what I mean? And like when when you’re playing for something that’s bigger than money, um, and granted, the majority, pretty much everyone on both teams, we don’t they don’t have to worry about money. So when you’re when you’re playing for something bigger than actually going there and and playing for, you know, the person standing next to you and there’s that kind of mentality, of course you want to run through a brick wall for that guy. You know what I mean? Whereas in when there’s people talking about like, oh, we should get paid more or you know, blah blah blah. like and I I look I haven’t read too much into it but I’ve heard comments here and there about some certain players talking about how much they they they should make um and look you are putting in a lot of time you are putting a lot of effort and it is you know the you know the PGA you know the R cup itself make makes a lot of money but um what makes the Euro so good I think is that because they don’t play for money that they’re there and they truly believe in their heart that they like want it, you know, more because of that. Not that’s just one part of it, the money side of things, but not only all the other things like the people that were, you know, there before. And I’m not saying that the US don’t feel that. I’m like I I definitely am not saying that at all because I I honestly feel like that uh the US is um you know, a great team and I think they’re I think they’re going to have a have a great team going forward. But uh yeah, I mean it was it was exciting to watch regardless. Jason, would you would you be in favor of of opening up the RDER Cup and making it more of a even more of an international event? Obviously, you know, golf has become much more of a global game as an Australian, you’re not eligible. Asians not eligible. So, would you would you like to see it expanded? I think I’ve probably got a little bit of slack for this, but I’d rather see the PJ tour versus live. Oh, because I think I think that’d be great. I honestly think PJ Tour versus Liv. So, the best PJ tour players versus live. And if I if you ever had the opportunity to get onto that team, that would be that’d be outstanding because then now you’re really playing into that. So, yeah. And well, we’re going to get to golf balls here in a minute and things because there there is equipment that people want. But there’s just so many so many interesting topics and and before we get to the golf ball, I have to I have to ask you this like 2015 your number one player in the world. Um we look at kind of your early history etc. Yeah. You never struck me necessarily as a wild dresser or willing to push the envelopes of fashion, maybe like a like an Ian Poulter or somebody. So, what the hell happened at Augusta? What did they actually say to you? How did that all go down? And and I want to know about this Malbond thing. like is that part of your personality that’s just always been there but people didn’t really know because that wasn’t worth kind of taking a risk maybe at that point in your career whereas now you’re obviously well established and can kind of do take more risk that way. So there’s a couple couple of things at play here. So um in regards to the fashion and all that stuff I’ve always been into fashion. There’s some really bad photos of me back in the day with what what what I was wearing. So, like I mean I’ve always been into into fashion a lot. I just because you’re an Adidas athlete when I first came out, a Nike athlete then you don’t really get to show it too much obviously. You just like and granted it’s it’s that way for a reason because the way they dress their players looks phenomenal. I think it’s just like it’s very like the way that Nike does their stuff like it’s just a swoosh. It looks very very professional. It looks very strong. Um, and then when it came to to Melbourne, um, I was, you know, like you said, I was established on the tour. I’ve been out there for a long time heading into my 19th season on the PGA tour and I just wanted I was actually going to do my own thing and I was just going to wear like kind of whatever I wanted and I was just going to sell the space, you know what I mean, that you that you can potentially sell like obviously left chest is huge, you know, um, um, you know, the back over here. Um, and you can start to sell other stuff. But like, you know, if you have space, you can sell that and kind of recoup some of the money. But, um, you know, with that being said, I was I was just going to go very classic, you know, style of golf, like very tailored custom clothes. And then, um, how it happened was my agent came to me and said, “Hey, um, there’s a young company called Mulwin that would like to make some stuff for you.” And then, you know, it kind of blossom from there. And then all of a sudden, I’m like, “Hey, do you think we can do this type of fabric? Do you think we can do this?” And then Steven Molvin himself is like a genius marketer. He just kind of is he’s he’s a obviously started out, you know, kind of I shouldn’t say he started out, but he was a caddy at a at a golf course in in Atlanta and then, you know, started up a magazine in New York and then all of a sudden found his way into LA and started a whole um clothing clothing line. And then from there for me to be able to kind of um help in a way that like what I want to see, you know, on the golf course, the way I want to feel. And I also wanted to not look like everyone else because if you’re an Adidas athlete or a Nike athlete, typically you’re there’s at some point you’re going to wear the same thing as someone else. It’s just it’s inevitable. So I kind of want to have my own thumbrint, my own identity out there. And then when you also have, you know, equity in the in the partnership as well, it also motivates you to kind of want to get get it out there even more. Um, where you’re wearing some kind of stuff that goes to the edge or to the line and some people hate it and some people love it. And then you bring it back and then you wear golfy stuff again. And then you keep going back and forth and you’re just testing that line. So you’re going there, you’re testing the line, then you come back and they’re like, so people are trying to guess like what in the world is this guy doing? Like he’s there’s no, you know, there’s no consistency in what he’s doing. And that’s kind of where we’re at. And then in regards to the to the Augusta vest, I wore it and I was like because we had a delay, I came back the next day cuz I wore something kind of I wore these big baggy pants. And then the next day I came back and Tiger and Max are like looking at me like like that’s boring. You know what I mean? And then I’m like, “Oh, just wait till I pull this jacket off cuz it was cold.” And then as soon it was like it was like um like when you’re on a talk show or something like that when the lights come on they’re like 3 2 1 bang. It was like we’re about to tee off. We’re on 14 3 2 1 best off and then it’s just like camera’s right there because it’s like worked out perfect cuz Tiger’s right there. Max is there. He’s playing great golf. Like so it’s just like a whole thing and then all of a sudden it blew into blew into that and then I get off the golf course. My agent goes hey like you Augusta has asked you to take that vest off. I said, “No problem.” Like, “This is not my tournament. I like, you know, just where like I’m not trying to like get on anyone’s nerves or um make anyone angry or annoyed, but um you know, I just kind of took it off and you know, that was the end of it and it just kind of blossomed into what it was.” So, well, I mean, if that were if someone pitched that idea as a marketing concept and say, “Hey, here’s how we want this to go.” It couldn’t have gone really any better, you know, because it pushed the line to a degree. Obviously stepped over some line that somebody didn’t appreciate. Fine, whatever. Like you said, perfect response. Hey, not my tournament. I’m here on their behalf. It’s their tournament, their rules. Happy to abide by those. But that arguably got it even more press than you know because now there was some controversy around it which like you said when you push boundaries part of you wants that sort of response where some are going to like it and some are going to ask you to not wear it at their tournament. the that got that got 4 point I think it got 4.7 billion impressions on on like social media and then like the uh the American American shorts that I wore at the US Open this year I think it I think that got 4.3 billion impressions so it was just like a lot of people saw it which was fantastic and then ultimately to the point where um the Ryder Cup US Ryder Cup team uh was was sent a bunch of the American shorts for the as a gift um ultimately in the end cuz Keegan saw him. He’s like we got to get those for the guys. So that was fantastic which is nice. Ah well that’s awesome. Well let’s talk some golf ball stuff since you know that’s we’re done with the serious stuff. Now we can get into some fun things. Tony um what do you think Tony? You asked this one. Yeah. Yeah. I think starting point right you are a a Bridgestone staffer now in the golf ball category. How did how did that happen? How did you find your way to Bridgestone? So there were there are a number number of like little stories you know that I was you know as I was playing the tour I remember Tiger playing the Bridgestone Ball for a little bit. I’m like and we were playing Bay Hill and there’d be at the time I was I was playing a different my my like my old contract ball and we were in the same position on some holes and he’d be hitting these shots and I’m like it was just so simple for him. He didn’t have to overplay a shot. There’s nothing worse when you have a shot that you’re next to another player and you’re having to manufacture something that is very uncomfortable in regards to your technique to be able to create a shot to make it work out, you know? and and Ty was sitting there with a Bridgestone ball and he’s chipping and I’m like man that just look like a normal chipping technique where I’m just hitting this like kind of open phase wide open like flop shot and he’s just like hitting this like nice little chip shot that is just so simple easy technique when you start to add like bigger wider swing longer swings with an open face then that gets tougher and then I was sitting there thinking I’m like okay he plays a Bridgestone ball it’s like kind of cheating around the golf you know around the golf greens or the greens when you’re short side at least Um, and then Bryson at the time was a staffer and you know how he likes to tinker. Like he’s like sitting there spritzing the golf ball at tour jams. But like, but you got to understand that like even though some of that potentially could be for show, he’s not silly. He actually does a lot of the testing to be able to understand why it is happening and then can they develop a golf ball that is actually helpful. So you have the best play, arguably the best player in the world playing and the guy that like is going to do the most testing out of everyone on tour playing that. That was like the two like positives that I saw. When I started like hitting the ball, I’m like, “Wow, this is pretty impressive. I I had a lot more spin around the green. So anytime I’m short side, it was a lot easier to get up and down. You could be a little bit more aggressive at at your targets. And also like side breezes, the stability in the side breezes. Like I was just so used to hitting a shot, going up, starting to lose a little bit of air underneath it and it would just kind of drift. You know what I mean? On the wind and it drift a lot in my old golf ball. And then this one, I’d hit it and I’d be waiting for it to drift and it just would not drift. It just stay so straight. And then yeah, that’s kind of like how and and also I played it for a year. I didn’t like I played it for a year without even being a staffer because I’m like okay I’m just going to give this thing a real good go because it’s so easy to like as a professional golfer it’s so easy to go out and find deals no problem like golf ball deals shoe shoe deals glove deals whatever you want there’s deals out there that you can get but there’s very rarely like at the time did you ever find guys that were just trying something for free and just using it and then really just giving it a go and that’s kind of what I did. I’m like, I need to really try and give this a go because if I if you get paid, it’s just easy. You’re just going to go on and get paid and you say, “Hey, this is a ball that I use. I love it.” You know what I mean? Is there a lot of truth to it? Maybe, maybe not. But you just kind of get used to it and you worked your golf game around that golf ball. Whereas, I really wanted to build my game around this golf ball because I just knew that it was going to help me uh in the long run. Yeah, the money grab part. I mean, obviously that didn’t work out super well for Bubba at one point in time. You can argue whether or not that was part of Ricky’s struggles initially going over to Tailor Made was going from one ball to a very very different ball and having to adjust that. So, you know, when you do that, what does your ball fitting process look like? Again, this is expansive. It’s it’s ex, you know, extensive. You’re a professional. This is, you know, your hammer nails. It’s different than us weekend warriors, but give us a peek inside. What does that look like? What are you really looking for? like what are your key decision points on yes or no or deal breakers? Hey, if this ball doesn’t do A, B, or C? Yeah. Then it’s not even a consideration. So, is the golf ball going far enough is is obviously one of those crucial things cuz you like you don’t want to start losing distance. Um, how is it performing in breeze like into the wind, downwind, side breezes? How’s it performing landing on the greens? How is it performing flighting shots? So, your wedges, your your short irons, your mid irons, like how do they how do they work out? Um, short game stuff around the greens. What does it sound like? The feel and really just going back and forth between the balls. So, like you’ll be hitting, you know, Bridgestone and then you go and hit your old ball and then you just try and go back and forth and then you’re like just, okay, what is it? What do I really want? Because there’s there’s pros and cons to all of it. Like my old ball that I had was a very very firm golf ball. I never had to worry about spin because I’m a high spinning guy. But because it was such a rockhard golf ball, I never had to worry about it spinning like with a wedge because it would just come down and it felt like it was like a real heavy ball and bounce and and stop. Whereas in sometimes the Bridgestone Ball, if I don’t get my the if I don’t quite get the technique right, sometimes it wants to spin. But now obviously I’ve changed into this new VS black and that’s like mitigated like all that stuff. So which is which is fantastic. So there is a process um and you have going through all of what I said um is important. Obviously like I said the sound is very very important too cuz you can get things that are a little bit too clicky and that just doesn’t that throws guys you know it doesn’t matter what it is. If it’s like if you like it clicky then it can make a golf ball that is not as good seem like it’s better than your old golf ball or vice versa the other way too. How much of this are you doing on course? You know just going out there playing with a golf ball versus you know being being on the range with a Trackman. Um, so Trackman you can start to lose sight of you you it’s good to get the numbers like a baseline of like let’s just say for instance like a 7 Iron spends a 7,000 and I’m just saying just baseline it doesn’t that’s not me but it’s good to get those numbers how high it’s going what’s the apex uh what what’s the land angle what’s spin how much curvature is there on the and obviously some of that stuff is related to like what you do delivering in into the golf ball. But, um, the big thing is you got to just take it out and play with it and get it get it out on the golf course. And you got to go, okay, well, what is it like from the fairway at 150 yards? And what is it like from the first cut at 150 yards? What is it like from the first cut with wind into me from 150 yards or downwind? You know, do I like that trajectory going into it? Do I do I not like the trajectory? Do I do I find that it’s coming in too hot? Do I find that it’s coming in too soft and spinning? Like, does it come off the driver feeling like it’s going to come off really fast? Or does it come off a little bit slow and feel like it’s just not really getting a lot of pop onto it? So, there’s just a number of things that you have to get out. If you don’t like the what you’re seeing trajectory wise, you’ll never really fully believe in it. You know what I mean? So, you got to go out there and go, “Okay, that’s my windows. I like what it’s doing.” Um, and then just really kind of believe in that process. But if you don’t if you don’t trust what it’s doing flightwise, trajectory wise, spin-wise, it’ll be very difficult to change over to any golf ball, you know, let alone like something, you know, that you’ve, you know, fully trust. I think it’s interesting like you mentioned the rough. I don’t think, you know, when, like Chris said, the weekend warriors, right? We don’t necessarily when we’re trying out new balls, trying to find something that works for us, probably very few of us actually think like, “All right, let let’s drop a few in the rough and and really see what we notice.” Right. What do you see? Do you do you see pretty significant differences between golf balls hitting out of the rough? Like, okay, Chris mentioned, like, are there deal breakers? Right. Yeah. Now, some of it like if you’re in the long rough, some of it like potentially is club related because depending on like the groove depth and the way that they cut the grooves, um that can potentially cause flies or no fliers. So, that’s obviously if that is the case, then how does that ball perform? Let’s just say for instance, you got more of a V-groove and the depth depth of your of your groove is really small because you’re trying to take spin off on from the fairway. But if you go on the rough, you’ll get a flyer. Are you okay with seeing a flyer out of the rough with, you know, the ball that you have currently? You know what I mean? If you are, then great. That’s no problem. If you have like more of a kind of a U or square groove, cuz the grooves, the groove rule is kind of like gray. You know what I mean? It’s not like they they said they got rid of square g, but like there’s you can kind of get around it. But um long story short is like when you have more square grooves like and you you’re in the rough like the thick rough and you see it come out like let’s say for in I hit a a 9 on 155 yards and in thick rough there’s like a little bit of grass that you have to go through and it only go about 150 yards but then if I have the same lie and I have like the V-grooves and it’s popping that potentially could make the ball fly another you know 10 yards. Do I like that? So that’s that’s the reason what I’m saying is like when you’re testing a ball, test it. Go to the rough. Go to the first cut. Go to the sand. Spray water on your ball if you can because you could have a 7 iron spinning at 7,000 on a nice dry day, 80 77°, zero altitude, and then you put some water on it and it’s going to spin at 8,000 and it’s going to pull up, you know, 5 to seven yards shorter than your actual normal dry 7 iron. So, like those are the things that you kind of have to test and and really understand. Well, some balls don’t do that. Some balls kind of are better with wet, you know, uh, with a wet ball or some balls are better with, you know, out of the first cut. Um, so they’re the kind of things that you have to go through. There we Oh, we froze. Sorry, boys. Yeah, my bad. No, you’re Where where was where was I at? We we just finished up like V-groove, square grooves, just saying, “Hey, can you live with knowing that you may get that flyer, you know, and that’s going to, you know, may, you know, dump some of the spin and and, you know, I think and you definitely get people that are way more into it, right? And they can take the time and do all that.” Yeah. Most golfers probably won’t do that. So, if you were, let’s say, somebody that’s interested saying, “Hey, God, I’ve never really thought about testing a ball versus my new ball. I’m interested. I’ll do that.” What do you think would be kind of like a reader digest version or like a diet ball thing fitting if you’re like, “Hey, I’m going to get this done and and here are three to five things that your 12 handicap can do that would help put them in a better ball.” Like if you had to simplify that, what what do you think would be kind of those maybe three to five things that would be like the non-negotiables against? Well, I think you have to look at your your club speed because if you you if you’re let’s just say for instance, you you could potentially use a tightless prov or a left left dash or or left dot and you’re swinging the club at 95 mph with a driver, that ball is not going to be good for you. You know what I mean? um you need something that is probably a little bit softer, maybe spins a little bit more. You’ll be able to get it in the air a little bit more and you might optimize it better that way. So, um yeah, I mean, Bridgestone has a great ball fitting process where you can actually go through and see what type of golf ball actually you need for your club club speed and then obviously that that they kind of take you through the whole fitting process in that in that sense. But, uh yeah, I mean that and then obviously what what’s it doing around the grains? How’s it spinning? They’re the really the only two things like because no one most amateurs aren’t able to really control. Let’s just say you hit your 56 degree 100 yards and I say, “Hey, I want you to hit your 56 85 yards.” They’re not going to be able to control that. They don’t have enough. And I’m just talking about like a normal 12 handicapper. They won’t have the ability to go, “Hey, I’m going to take I’m going to grip down and I’m going to hit it like a 3/4 shot.” That should be about 85 yards and and hit it at, you know, 70 feet in the air with a certain x amount of spin. They don’t have that. So, just my my thing is just like, does the ball fit your driver? Do you like the ball when it comes off ironwise? Does it go through the windows that you like? And does it does it give you enough playability around the greens to be able to fit into a golf ball that you like? But the the not everyone should be playing a tightless golf ball prov like or left left dash left dot whatever it is. Um or even like a VSS black or or two or BX back in the you know last year you not everyone should be playing these balls if you’re not quite fit for them. So that’s why I’m saying like the Bridgestone has a great ball fitting process so you should be able to go get fit for that. Yeah. Most amateurs I know that if you say, “Hey, take this 100 yard 56, you know, and hit it 85.” You just chunk it and it goes, “Oh, that was 85.” Like that’s an easy way to take 15 yards off. Just just chunk it, right? Like that’s it hit a little bit, hit a bit a little bit higher in the face and it kind of loops there and it’s it’s fine. Yeah. Then you’re good. Um you’re good to go. I know this is going back a little bit prior to some of this ball testing stuff, but talk a little bit about your work with Jason Goldsmith and and the mindset part and you know just what that was and and and maybe the key benefits of it for you like during a tournament week. Yeah. So I started working with Jason Goldmith in 20 on in 2012 and we worked on like kind of this blueprint of like how to go through a loop or throw your awareness around. Um and essentially what you’re trying to do is you’re trying to put your eyes and your awareness in two different spots. So I’m looking at you guys right now, but I know my buddies are out in the green. I can throw my awareness on my buddies out in the green that are putting on the green out there right now and they’re just walking around and stuff. So essentially that way if your mind and your awareness focus on one thing, it gives you enough time and space to be able to start to your mind to wander, you know. So essentially that’s where we I’d get over a shot. I’d go into a shot. I’d ask myself a question. So what does a good draw what does a draw seven iron look like? Once you ask a question, the brain will answer. And then from there, um, I would visualize. Then I’d start to walk in, I’d be looking at my target, but my awareness would be on the golf ball. Right? So, as I would get close to the golf ball, I know that I’d go, “Okay, I’m ready to switch.” So, as soon as my my eyes and my awareness were awareness at the golf ball, my eyes were at the target. Soon as I got close to the golf ball, my head would start to go to the golf ball. And then my awareness from the golf ball would switch out to the target. And then I’d get over it. I’d set up and then I’d be looking at the golf ball, my awareness at the target. And as soon as I looked up at the target, my awareness would go back to the golf ball. So essentially what you’re trying to do is you’re trying to not let any sort of negative chatter or even just chatter in general because once you’re thinking it’s just it takes you out of focus. Um, and that way like we’re trying to take that chatter out and then you’re just going back and forth until you’re ready to pull the trigger and hit the shot. Now, when we started talking about mindset on the golf ball, that’s kind of what the process was. We were like, “Okay, what’s the what’s the rings?” You know, we got to go we got to start with the with the gathering of the information. And once we gather the information, then we got to uh visualize a shot. And then obviously the last step was to go ahead and pull the trigger and execute. And that’s kind of like something where we have tested with Bridgestone and um yeah it’s been it’s been amazing um you know kind of uh process to test through those guys and um but also hear the good stories about you know how guys are you know uh lowering their handicaps and lowering their scores because of it. How did how did the mindset kind of the the actual graphic on the ball progress? I think we was a PGA show last year, right? Bridgestone showed us some of the early ideas. Can you kind of step us through your involvement in in getting to what I guess constitutes the final design? Yeah. So, essentially it it came out as a ring design because you like it was just step one, step two, step three. And obviously step one was the was the gathering information stage where you have the red circle and obviously you got the the yellow circle where you’re like it’s kind of like a a stop light green light kind of uh like or you’re at a at a light a red light and it’s like okay I’m stopped I’m thinking then you like obviously you go into the the yellow some places have yellow and then green. So, we just wanted to make sure that we’re like there was a process in steps to go from red, yellow, green. Green was like pull the trigger, let’s go kind of thing cuz you wanted to go out there, gather all the information. How far is it? What’s lie doing? You know, is it hot? Is it cold? Is it wet? Is it dry? You know, what other things that could potentially cause my ball to go further or shorter? Then you visualize. Yeah. Ask yourself the question, what is it? What does a good seven iron or draw seven iron look like? And then you go in and just execute and trust that process that you got it. Because most of the time, and I’m sure you guys have done it because you guys are golfers where you go, okay, I got 165 on or I got one, you know, 85, it’s 600. Yeah, no problem. And you don’t think you just like pull the trigger and just hit it. you’re like, I hope that goes somewhere close to it because you just you just think, I hit my 6 iron 185 yards and um it should just go about that distance. But you there’s a lot more to the process because you’re sitting there going, how hard are the greens today? Where’s the wind? Is it like dry conditions? Am I playing at altitude or am I playing at sea level? How do I feel in general? You know, am I tired? Is my speed down or am I jacked up? I’m playing a tournament. am I hitting it further? All those things are are the gathering information stage and that’s like the integral part of like getting into the correct mindset. So, it’s a very sounds like a very simple way of of processing and managing a whole lot of information, right? Like it’s not just, you know, all right, look at the target, look at the ball, hit it. It’s it’s really kind of being aware of of everything that goes into that golf shot. Yeah. It’s just getting the amter to be a to be more prepared to be able to hit the golf shot. So, if they’re more prepared to be able to hit the golf shot, they’re most likely going to hit a better golf shot in the long run. They’re going to they’re going to play better. They’re going to feel better about their game, and they’re going to just overall uh enjoy the game a lot more because they’re actually doing a routine every single time that they um go through those process or those steps. And granted, you can’t see the, you know, the mindset logo every single time, but if you do it enough over time, it’ll just become part of your routine. And that’s what we’re, that’s what our whole goal was to be able to help the amateur get into a better routine from start to finish so that they can actually start to play a lot better. Yeah. Let’s I want to talk about the new ball a little bit. You’ve you’ve alluded to it, mentioned to it. We don’t want to spill beans, talk tech details, things that you know aren’t are still under embargo and that stuff. But how involved have you been in this process now? Because like you said, what was it 22 I think maybe is when you signed officially? You were playing it the year before. That’s we’re we’re talking five, six years of of experience with Yeah. You know, with the product. So getting into that a little bit, what’s your role been like and and what have you noticed in this new book? Cuz I believe you’re already playing it. Yeah, I am playing it actually. I’ve got some stats here cuz like can I do you want me to say stats or no? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. So when I was number one in the world, I was I remember at Oakmont 2016, I was on the range next to Dustin Johnson and me and him were beating driver and I was 187 ball speed at that time. I’m I’m nowhere near that now because I’m just older. Um and me neither so it’s okay. You’re amongst friends. Yeah. So, with that being said, you know, I think a good driver of the golf ball if you can average 65% of fairways and you’re over 180 ball speed or like at 180 or above, which meaning you’re going to hit over 300 plus yards, that is a good formula for success, right? So, for the most part, like I like based off what they’re saying, you know, through the the VS Black compared to the Tour BX strokes gained to green for the year before the playoffs, I was 71st at 0.224. Uh, driving distance was 299.5, 117th. That’s awful. Accuracy 59 59.6% 82nd. Awful. Terrible. Um I changed to the golf ball stroke game to green 2.563 which was 10th in the playoffs like in the it’s now granted it is a small testing pool because I only played two tournaments but during those two tournaments I was 10th in um strokes he t and then driving distance I was at 308.7 so I went to 30th instead of 117th so I gained 9.2 two yards, you can say 10 yards. So, and then at accuracy, I was at 68.16. So, I was 11th in accuracy as well. So, with that being said, I’ve seen a significant gain in uh ball speed up to 2 to 2 and 1/2 mph in in ball speed alone, which which equates to that, you know, pretty much 10 yards of of extra distance. So that being like if I could keep myself at 68 or like like I said 65% and 300 plus you are going to be a really really really outstanding driver of the golf ball and known as an outstanding driver of the golf ball cuz you hit it long and straight. So that’s just going to give you more opportunities uh to be able to get at certain pin locations because you’re actually playing a lot shorter shots coming into the greens. um and should lower your scores potentially if you’re a half decent iron player um and then get yourself on the greens more. So yeah, that’s kind of where that’s kind of where the VSS Black is sitting right now. It’s been it tested wonderfully. They actually came to me last fall and said, “Hey, we got this new driver new ball coming out and I tested it.” I’m like I’m like, “When is this ball coming out?” “Oh, it’s not going to come out for another year.” I’m like, “Why are you freaking telling me about this right now? because I wanna I want to play it, you know what I mean? So, um it took took him a while and then all of a sudden like, you know, they said, “Oh, we’re going to do it before the playoffs.” I’m like, “Thank goodness.” Like, I can let me let me get some like, you know, some more distance out of it. Which was great. So, no transition. I mean, really, did you put it in right away? Oh, no, bro. It was It was straight Yeah. Straight in the bag. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Two two to three miles an hour, 10 yards, more fairways. Is it is it strictly speed and you know again munching more fairways so an accuracy component? Yeah. Tied in with actually hitting the ball longer too. So kind of a win-win in that regard. But is there anything else you’re seeing? I don’t see any loss in spin around the greens which is kind of weird because typically when you’re talking to a professional golfer that’s then and then the whoever you work with golf ball related they always come and say what do you want to see in a golf ball? Well there’s two things. I want to hit it longer and I want to spin more around the green. So, they’re typically the two things that usually most guys say. You know what I mean? And then when they do when they when you do say that, you’re like, h, you can’t really do that. You either got to give one up or the other. So, right now I’m in a perfect world where I’ve got the spin around the greens that I haven’t lost with compared to a BX to the new VS Black and then I’ve gained distance which is like outstanding. Like I’m like couldn’t be happier with the ball. And then they’re going to roll it all back, right? In a couple years potentially they’re gonna say I’ve got I’ve got an issue with that. I do have an issue with that. What’s Yeah. What’s your take and and what’s kind of the sentiment amongst players etc. Like give us your take because we talk about all this wonderful technology. Bridgestone’s done this that you found these through testing etc. I get excited because another five yards to me would be huge, right? For me, a half a club, anything is great. And then I go, I I’ve asked every single golfer I’ve ever played with, including some guys that are really really long, and none of them told me they want to hit it shorter. So, no one no one wants to hit want to hit it shorter. Yeah, no one wants to hit it shorter. I think I think they should stop the ball and make the driver less forgiving. The driver is the most forgiving club in your bag. you make that thing less forgiving. And like if you’re if you’re susceptible to hitting some some duck hooks or some block cuts, you’re going to pull out that 3-wood or that long iron pretty quick to just get something bunting down the middle of the fairway because you’re like, I can’t be hitting it 240 yards snap hooking into the into the trees. You know, I need to get something kind of out in the middle. And that’s essentially the way that golf has gone because we’ve made the golf ball longer and we’ve also made the driver longer and more forgiving. And but that’s technology in itself. Like the athlete is so much better. Like the college like every time I see a kid that’s coming out on the on the tour now, they’re like 63 wide shouldered hit like 185 mph. I understand make the driver less forgiving. They might pull out a threewood. today, mate. And that will bring because every the way that we play golf these days is so offense driven. We hit it as far as we can down there. Um, and we just kind of gouge it out rather than like back when I first started, there were guys that were kind of there was a mixture of both. There was guys that were still very defensive and then there was guys that were hitting like drivers like Yeah. Then there was guys that were hitting um you know like kind of bunting it down the fairways getting getting themselves in positions and and then going from there. So, do you think I mean what I’m hearing you saying too is like for elite tour players, golfers, making golf ball go shorter doesn’t necessarily change their their mindset, but giving you a golf club now that is inherently less forgiving or more prone to cuckoo balls and stuff that would actually cause you to think differently about whether you send it or whether you like you said pull threewood, etc. So if you had a however they would do that 300 cc’s 340 cc’s or limit MOI or whatever it was that would impact how you approached it. Yeah. That would impact the way that you approach because you’re not going to feel great every single day. You’re not going to feel like I’m like swinging. You’re not going to feel like Rory Mroy that drives a golf ball the way he does every single day. You know, it’s just like it’s it’s very there’s a small percentage of guys that have that. And when you’re fighting, you swing a little bit and you’re not quite feeling, you’re not quite confident, and then all of a sudden you get these hooks and you get the slices and you’re like, you’re pulling a lofted club out and just trying to get it on the fairway and get through it because now is it going to make it less exciting? Maybe, maybe not. like maybe it’s going to come down to the line and you’re going to see some terrible shots or maybe you’re going to come down and you’re going to see guys play a different style of game because now it’s just like getting a driver as far as you can gouge it out. Um, and it’s just very one-dimensional and that’s kind of gone into a lot of course architecture as well, you know what I mean? And the way that we play major championship golf uh tournaments is usually just drive as far as you can. Wedge it out, you know, on the green. Hopefully give yourself a part. Yeah. I want to see somebody on AT&T at Augusta leading the tournament, fighting their driver with that narrow corridor going, uh, do I pull driver? Do I throw hybrid long iron knowing that I’m going to have five, six iron in instead? Like Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah. I mean that’s that’s the point is that like to this year I I was had like zero idea of where the ball was going. I lost a ball up 18 made a great five in the end cuz it hit drive down the fairway and then hit a an iron on the green. But like you let’s just say for instance 300 yards from the T- box kind of in and around where we tee off 300 yards to the first bunker on the left. If you’re long you’re going to get to that first bunker. If you’re not quite comfortable and you’re not comfortable hitting a fade or you’re just not comfortable where the driver is going, you’re gonna pull probably pull 3-wood. When you pull 3-wood now, you’re hitting five iron, maybe a little bit longer into that into that green. Like that’s going to like change a lot of things, especially when you’re trying to win a tournament or you’re trying to catch someone. Um there’s just going to be that that’s when like big massive swings could potentially happen. Yeah. And all of a sudden four becomes a really good score in that hole as opposed to, hey, let’s see if somebody can make birdie to, you know, to force something. I Yeah. I mean, it’s it seems like it’s inevitable. I mean, what’s the sense out there, too? Is like the focus has been the ball in spite of the fact your idea is great, and I I I agree with you. It seems like they’ve kind of gone down this road. Is that to you? Are you kind of preparing for that as almost an inevitability or do you think it’s still up for debate? I think if you talk to some ball manufacturers, there’s some OEMs that would definitely not want to see it go that way and then there’s some OEMs that would love to see it go that way because they can cut into uh the market share is what I’m saying. Yeah. So, um as a player, I wouldn’t want to see it go that way because it just takes I mean Do you want to see Roy Maroy hit at 290? You know what I mean? And I’m I’m just pulling out a number, you know what I mean? He could still hit it 310, 320 yards, but it’s just not as fun watching someone hit it like 290. You know what I mean? It’s not as fun watching like Bryson Dashambo. Like watching Bryson Dambo hit driver on the first hole at the Ryder Cup was like impressive, you know? That’s fun to watch. Um, yeah. I mean, he hit it to the fringe in singles and I mean, he still lost the hole, but whatever. It was awesome to, you know, to see Yeah. to see him kind of kind of take that approach. I mean, it’s But once again, yeah, once once again, I just I I understand there’s always going to be longer guys on tour. I understand what the USCA is trying to do because the next B like batch of like young players, college kids, they’re all swinging 185, 190s, you know what I mean? So, it’s just only going to get longer and longer and longer um as you know, these young kids come up. So, I understand what they’re trying to do. I just think we can do it differently, not have to give up or have two separate rules for amateurs and or like your local weekend golfer and and professional or elite level um golf, you know what I mean? Or two different standards of golf balls because that would that would not be fun. You know what I mean? Like it’s it’s just it it’s like any, you know, sport. professional golfers or professional athletes make the sport look so simple that anyone can go out there and think they can do it, you know? So, to be able to take that out of a lot of people’s hands like kind of it’s it’s a little bit um a little bit sad to think about, but uh it’ll be interesting. We’re a little bit aways from that. So, hopefully they we come up with a solution, but I I definitely understand both sides. I’d rather not see the the roll back. What about on the tour in general? Is there is it would you say universally against a roll back or are there pockets of support? Are there some guys who are looking forward to it? It’s funny. We um we listen to these governing bodies that only have like one professional tournament a year, you know, like they got the US US Open, the British Open, and we’re like listening to these guys. like we essentially could make our own rules as a PJ tour because we play a whole we could essentially make our own rules if we wanted to, but it just doesn’t make sense because obviously we’ve abided by the rules for such a long time. Um I know that the tour doesn’t want I I’m yet to find someone on tour that actually wants the roll back. um like truly in their heart because and I’m not saying that there isn’t. I’m sure there are um but it just makes a product that’s you know not as good. You know what I mean? Like like I said before, like it just I don’t want I don’t want to see Rory like pumping a drive out there and it just goes 295, you know? I I want to see him hitting a 330 340 down the middle. Um, but yeah, I think I I I I would assume, and this is just an assumption, I would assume that the tour would rather long drives, a lot of birdies, a lot of excitement. Yeah, I think that’s fair. I mean, and you know, it’s first world problems. I get it. But at the same time, it’s, you know, it’s it’s kind of one of the bigger topics facing us. Let’s let’s finish up with this. Let’s go through just your golf bag real quick. What are what are you bagging now? What are you playing? What for all of us equipment geeks out there, what tweaks have you made? What are you currently testing? What uh let’s start driver. We’ll just kind of go driver. Go that down to your I’m assuming you guys have heard that I’ve been playing or testing some clubs, I guess. But um I am Yeah, sorry. One second. Hey, bud. Yep. Two minutes. Um, I have always played the ping ping driver for a while now. Um, I just I love the feel of the offc center hits. I love the stability. I am playing a TGI um shaft, which is a KBS shaft in it now. And I’m actually trying to match the shafts throughout the whole bag. So, the profile of the shafts. So essentially what the theory is there is that we can swing it the same for each club and not have because back in the day you’d be like okay the drivers essentially a different swing and the irons are a different swing and you got to get different shafts to match those. So, um yeah, I mean it’s I’m testing some of Oda stuff, but I’m playing Tailor Made right now, but I’m testing Jumboax uh grips and I’m testing the TGI 110s as well, which Jumbo Max, like when you think about Jumbo Max, like I think other than Bryson, I don’t think anyone else is playing Jumbo Max grips right now. But um I have Vokei wedges in the bag, but you know they’re like, like I said, a VOD. I’m testing those. You know, I’ve got the Tailormaids in my bag. Got the Ping. I got a M63wood and a uh Qi35 7wood. Yeah. So, there’s just a number of things in my bag right now that I’m testing. I’m out of season right now, so I don’t even know what I’m going to go with next year. we see like that even like amateurs, tour players, it seems to be universal truth that the the 3-wood is the one that that sticks around the longest. Has that always been the case for you? Yeah, because you have to it’s it’s almost like a 60°, right? You like with a 60° club, you’re asking it to do be one of the most versatile clubs in the bag, right? You have to play high shots, low shots, bunkers, rough fairway. You have to like get it running. You have to get it stopping. You have to get it spinning. So, if you don’t find the right grind, bounce, and all that stuff. And if for it to go into the ground and out of the ground the way that you want to, then that makes chipping and short game very, very tough. Same kind of thing concept with a 3-wood. You’re asking it to go really really hard off the off the T- box and you’re asking it to come really really soft and land soft onto um a par five green and you’re asking it to for me I hit this low bunt uh 3-wood um that I use a lot at the British Open or any sort of dry conditions and I also like to flight it up and get it up in the air. So you’re asking a 3-wood to kind of be a lot and if and a drive it’s just stock standard off a T. You’re hitting it like a normal swing. and you’re just hitting like your stock standard shot. Whereas in a 3-wood, you’re kind of asking it to draw, fade, land high, go high, land soft, go hard, low, run a lot. So once you find one, it’s very, very difficult to get that thing out of the bag. Yeah, no doubt. Well, that’s we covered a lot. I can’t wait to, you know, follow, see how things go in the offseason, see what’s in the bag to start next season. Um, all of those things. We appreciate you coming on. Appreciate you carving out time. I know it’s off seasonason, but I know your schedule’s still uh super busy and so uh we appreciate the conversation and your time and wish you nothing but the best uh moving forward and um you know, if you ever need a caddy at Augusta, I know a guy. So, I appreciate you guys uh having me on and uh it was good chatting with you guys. Uh I hope to do it again soon. All right. Thanks, Jason. Everybody else, leave your comments. Let us know what you think. We out.

Jason Day Joins Tony and Chris to discuss what’s in his bag, which bridgestone ball he plays, his thoughts on the Ryder cup, and much much more! This is a great episode, you’ll won’t want to miss.

00:00 Intro
01:13 Jason’s Warm up routine
01:33 Ryder Cup Results
08:57 The Master’s Fit
15:19 Bridgestone Ball Fitting
30:08 Prototype Bridgestone Ball
41:07 RollBack Debate
50:48 What’s in the bag?

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